Good Photos versus Bad Photos

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Permalink Reply by Mark Washington on September 27, 2008 at 4:40am

David, I try not to leave any comments for the mass photo loaders. Today someone upload over 200 photos, I saw one that I made a comment on. I am just trying to understand the purpose of mass loading photos. Is this site a photo diary that every photo you take needs to be posted? I take many photos over a month's time. Some of the photos I take do not even make my private collection. I have a standard for the photos I upload to my Flickr site and now I have an even higher standard for photos uploaded to Picture Social. Like I said earlier, I think some people need attention and they just upload every single photo they have taken. What I consider as "dribble" some may think of as beauty. It is better to have quality "dribble" than quantity "dribble”.

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Permalink Reply by Jon Gaskill on October 5, 2008 at 9:30pm

I was encouraged by a member to post all of my pics (save the repeats from a few inches difference.) But the damage is done and I have some real stinkers on my albums. I cannot find a way to remove them.

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Permalink Reply by Scinta on October 5, 2008 at 10:07pm

Hi Jon, if you click on a photo there is a box that comes up on the right of that photo and one of the options listed is to delete that photo. Hope this helps.

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Permalink Reply by Tigger on February 24, 2009 at 3:24pm

I'm curious...as an amateur with a point and shoot camera who is very much still in the learning process, both in developing an "eye" and in technique, I certainly do recognize the difference between a snapshot and a photograph. I consider what I've done so far to be taking pictures and am striving to take what I consider a real photograph. However, I find posting my pictures to be valuable, as it makes them available for comment. I may not get any comments or may only get niceties from friends, but at least they are there should someone more knowledgable choose to give constructive critique. Participating this way is enjoyable and I make a point of studying the work of others and reading comments, as this helps me learn what I like, what I should pay better attention to, and what a community of viewers in general consider worthy photography. I certainly don't upload pages of every shot I've ever taken, but I can't claim to have uploaded anything that is "art". If this type of participation in the site is not what was intended/wanted by the owners/moderators and original community of photographers, then there certainly should be a message posted to that effect. By the way, all of my comments are honest (referring to jadeast's post). Even if I don't like everything about a shot, or think it a failed shot overall, there are often aspects I do appreciate and I comment on those. I think this sort of thing is encouraging and I appreciate when I read that my composition was good in a particular shot (especially if I was "iffy" about it), etc. That sort of thing helps the learning process, I feel. :)

Do you feel strongly that only art gallery work should be posted?

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Permalink Reply by EVA CANTRELL on September 19, 2008 at 4:37am

I think alot of people upload all their holiday photo's so there overseas families can see them and a good percentage of them are terrible I would have thought there would be a limit on how many you can upload in one session. many of the photo's are not even worth looking at they are so poorly taken some only have a foot in the photo and are so blurred you can't see anything and there are up to 200 of them in one upload one lot had a little girls face and it was repeated over and over again and no variation there is no thought to good photo's or quality only quantity for there families to see I doubt very much whether they have even looked at there own photo's cheers Eva

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Permalink Reply by MADsMoKe on September 19, 2008 at 4:40am

i agree these people should u photobucket or msn and exchange them with family members #

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Permalink Reply by kRiZcPEc on September 19, 2008 at 4:54am

Quality should come first, yes. But then quality is subjective, and opinion on it changes over time. Suppose today I get a shot that I believe is of quality, some time later I might find it only so-so, but at the time I upload it, I would heartedly think this is nice, this presentable.
And this site, I think it's clear that apart from creating a platform for photo enthusiasts or photographers or all level to showoff their works, is for social/networking purposes, people can upload photo as they wish, no trouble, if any shots aren't worth looking at, I would simply skip it.
If someone are serious about quality to the extend that they suggest a limit be imposed that would be off-putting, rather we can give stars to shots we found beautiful and leave those not-so-good sutff out of mind.

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Permalink Reply by jadeast on September 19, 2008 at 9:07am

This is a free site, the crap goes with the territory. There are a lot of pay to play sites out there that you don't have to deal with this 'as much'. A consideration to the rest of us would to label your crap visible to your friends only and spare the rest of us!

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Permalink Reply by Gabriel Catalin on September 19, 2008 at 3:00pm

I fully agree with Berk! I equally consider that uploading hundreds of photos (even if some of them are good) is mainly a sign of total lack o civility and respect, first of all SELF respect! I think a good ideea would be to limit per day uploads to - say - 6, max.8. This could solve the problem for good and everybody will have time to watch and select and comment. My photos for example are rather low in quality but I try to learn from your comments and reactions. I'd even ask the ones of you who look at them to also tell what you do NOT like or think could be improved. After all, that is why we are here, to share impressions, advice and
photos, even if not all of us are top pros. But there should be a decency in all we do ...

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Permalink Reply by Photo Critic on September 19, 2008 at 9:40am

Interesting discussion here.

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Permalink Reply by Alan Edney on September 19, 2008 at 10:42am

I'm a website developer by trade and can assure you it's really tricky to strike the perfect balance in controlling the publicly created content of your website. The best way is that adopted by the likes of Facebook and YouTube where the majority keep the minority in check. Community control.

Basically, all the developers need to introduce is a way for anyone to click a link next to a photo which you class as 'junk' (or a more polite term). If enough other people mark a user's photos as junk (say 25% of viewers) then the system could send them an automatic email advising them of the problem with their uploaded material and suggest ways to improve their content. If they continue then they'd find their ability to upload further photos curtailed or even prevented.

However, if a person abuses their ability to mark a photo as junk by doing it to numerous photos where no-one else has had the same opinion then the automatic email would be sent to that person instead. it would advise them not to mark random photos as junk and possibly curtail their ability to do this.

It's not a perfect system but better than the free-for-all there is at the moment. A right of appeal would be needed where the administrators of Picture Social could re-instate a person's account if the system has made a mistake.

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Permalink Reply by jadeast on September 19, 2008 at 12:23pm

This is somewhat Ironic in that on another site I belong to where people are being paid for their sales, there is a blog complaining that any criticism is bad for the site as a whole and should be kept behind closed doors. In both instances, I think that people are taking themselves and what they consider art too too seriously, Yes there are some people who are taking some of the fun out of it. There are many serious photographers here who accept this site for what it is and enjoy what it is, granted that's harder now that the site has gotten larger, but the people who are your friends are still here.
I have mostly moved on because the joy that I experienced just isn't here any more, it's all supposed to be fun, In general if you aren't having fun, chances are most of the rest of us aren't either!

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